Mayapur forum fully reveals the misery of living in a Gestapo society.

The discussion about whenever devotees should play football in the holy dhama continues. One would expect that both sides will quote from Srila Prabhupada works. So that everybody can learn something from the debate. One would expect we will all be enlightened by the wise words of ISKCON gurus who reside in Mayapur. That would happen if Mayapur was populated by true followers of Srila Prabhupada.

However, we are seeing the sad state of the anti-intellectual Gestapo society.

First of all, ISKCON gurus are like harmless puppies whose sole purpose is smiling, collecting donations, and telling everybody not to criticize. Therefore, not a single ISKCON guru wrote even one paragraph about the current football issue. This clearly proves the point that ISKCON gurus don’t have any true interest in presenting the absolute truth. They are absolutely useless in any real-world situation because they always remain silent.

And instead of being delighted to discuss the application of Krishna consciousness, Gestapo officers have started with their standard strategy of “ad hominem” attacks.

The best example of that is an email written by Braja Sevaki, who is a prime example of Gestapo consciousness. A devotee who forwarded me this email explains that this letter is a response to a devotee who is against football in Mayapur.

From: Braja Sevaki dd <braja.sorensen@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 12:34 PM
Subject: {Mayapur Forum} Re: Śrila Prabhupāda's NOTICE to ISKCON members - notice the point on Football (frivolous sports)
To: Mayapur Community Forum <Mayapur-Forum@googlegroups.com>

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Ananda Tirtha prabhu, I would like to know at what level the “bar” is set on this Forum, that this unleashed, service-less dictator of all that is right is allowed to label responses to his nonsense “vicious and venomous,” when he speaks down to senior devotees, he has no service in Mayapur that anyone can speak of, he is a constant offender and criticiser, he sits on the internet all day and finds things to criticise, then takes a superior position when someone tells him he’s incorrect, he claims to know more than everyone senior to him “what Prabhupada would think” and slams it home every time anyone DARES to oppose his pathetic blatherings. I stay away from the Forum solely because of the likes of this wretched little nobody, but you continue to let him spew his verbal diarrhea everywhere. Can you please tell me at what point you will shut this fool down and not constantly expose us to his uncontrolled ego? Is THIS what this Forum is meant to be for? 

Or maybe we should do this in person: we all know how these little nobody keyboard warrior-wannabes crumble in the face of real people.

I’m sure others would also like to know, if my inbox of support letters is any indication….

On Saturday, 9 January 2021 at 8:54:20 am UTC+5:30 Patita-pāvana Nitāi Gaura Dāsa wrote:
I am pretty sure Śrila Prabhupāda would be more concerned about opposing his direct instructions and would rather appreciate someone taking a good notice of such deviations and strongly, repeatedly emphasizing why we should be loyal and obedient to our Founder-Acarya.

Śrila Prabhupāda would be definitely concerned about daily football and regular football tournaments inside his campus, using his resources, creating a bad impression to pilgrims and visitors, cheating devotees by promoting and propagating deviations in his institution.

Śrila Prabhupāda would be sad to see someone claiming to be his follower for decades, putting down others condescendingly, those who actually understood his teachings well in a short time is not given any value but treated in a vicious, venomous mood.

Thank you! Hare Krishna.

All glories to Śrila Prabhupāda!

Hope this meets you in good health and great Krishna conscious spirits.

Your servant,
Patita-pāvana Nitāi Gaura Dāsa.

Analysis

If you look at the original email in italics, devotee Patita Pavana is giving rational arguments that football should not be played inside the Mayapur complex. He is mentioning the instructions of Srila Prabhupada, and the general impression the pilgrims and visitors will get from seeing football.

The reply by Braja Sevaki is a perfect illustration of the mindset of a crazy ISKCON follower.

Ananda Tirtha prabhu, I would like to know at what level the “bar” is set on this Forum, that this unleashed, service-less dictator of all that is right is allowed to label responses to his nonsense “vicious and venomous,” when he speaks down to senior devotees,

The background is that Ananda Tirtha is the local censor of the forum, and he is also the secretary of the Gestapo body commission. His job is to censor people who quote Srila Prabhupada too much or those who hold a different opinion. Therefore, she is asking for the “bar” to be set. Free speech is the greatest nightmare for people in Gestapo consciousness. She is also complaining that she is called vicious and venomous and that is exactly how her email looks like. Her email is so disgusting that just by reading it, I firmly decided that I never want to meet her.

Although the attribute “vicious and venomous” is well deserved by Braja Sevaki, one of the primary qualifications of a devotee is that he is not taking insults seriously and is able to tolerate them. Let us quote from Braka Sevaki’s book: “Living the Bhagavad-gita: Ancient Wisdom for Modern Life”.

So, look at the behavior of the author of this book, she is not humble at all, she is slandering people who don’t agree with her and who don’t want to accept her vicious personality. She is exactly the opposite of what she wrote in her book:

he has no service in Mayapur that anyone can speak of, he is a constant offender and criticiser, he sits on the internet all day and finds things to criticise,

Again, she is not giving a single rational argument about the original subject, rather she is pulling out the standard ISKCON Gestapo argument “You are not doing any service”. According to the ISKCON Gestapo society anybody who is not “doing service” is not able to think rationally. “Doing service” means that you are doing manual labor for your local Gestapo officer.

Using your brain and fighting against deviations is the greatest service for Srila Prabhupada, but puffed up, blind Gestapo officers consider such intelligent service to be undesirable.

Thus, ISKCON venomous Gestapo snakes are trying to create a society in which nobody will criticize anything, a complete utopia that is impossible to implement. When somebody criticizes something, a genuine leader is concerned with deviation itself, if he can do anything to correct it. Gestapo organization is not concerned with the deviation itself, they are more concerned with the person who noticed the deviation.

then takes a superior position when someone tells him he’s incorrect, he claims to know more than everyone senior to him “what Prabhupada would think” and slams it home every time anyone DARES to oppose his pathetic blatherings.

Braja Sevaki is talking about “taking Superior position”? Her letter sounds so puffed up that she probably thinks she is God or something. What a hypocrisy. Insulting people for expressing their honest opinion and then finding problems with “superior position”. Hilarious.

Braja Sevaki expects that she can tell everybody that they are incorrect without any arguments. And everybody must immediately submit to her and say “Yes, mam.”

Additionally, she is not providing any arguments, she is not quoting Srila Prabhupada, she is just insulting people who have a different opinion. And Gestapo censor Ananda Tirtha approved her email.

I stay away from the Forum solely because of the likes of this wretched little nobody, but you continue to let him spew his verbal diarrhea everywhere. Can you please tell me at what point you will shut this fool down and not constantly expose us to his uncontrolled ego? Is THIS what this Forum is meant to be for? 

So, she is staying away from the forum, but at the same time, she wants to make sure that nobody else is allowed to discuss philosophy. Providing quotes from Srila Prabhupada is considered by her to be “verbal diarrhea”.

Now, after reading all this, tell what intelligent person will want to join ISKCON and live in the same society where persons like Braja Sevaki are unchallenged.

Or maybe we should do this in person: we all know how these little nobody keyboard warrior-wannabes crumble in the face of real people.

So, if Ananda Tirtha doesn’t want to “shut down people”, now she is threatening to do it personally? Sounds like a threat to me.

WARNING  WARNING WARNING: Avoid having any kind of discussion with this person. Risk of injury. 🤣🤣🤣

I’m sure others would also like to know, if my inbox of support letters is any indication….

Of course, you don’t have any arguments and quotes from Srila Prabhupada’s books, but you have a bunch of idiotic supporters. As if the truth is dependent on the number of supporters. If that was the fact, then Lady Gaga would be the greatest Acarya of our times.

For everybody who is reading the Mayapur forum discussions, ask yourself, do you really want to live in Mayapur? Do you really want to have Ananda Tirtha review your emails and censor them? Do you really want to debate with people like Braja Sorensen?

 

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